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Post by untapdtreasure on Dec 6, 2013 15:04:03 GMT -5
Summary: Daryl, Tyreese, Michonne and Bob continue to the Veterinary Medical Center on foot in search of medicine. Rick and Carol go on a run to a nearby town where they find two uninfected stragglers. [ source] |
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Post by untapdtreasure on Dec 6, 2013 15:07:01 GMT -5
opinion: I have to wonder if Carol wasn't trying to get Rick to accept what she had one in order to get him to see that it wasn't done with malice. That it was done to protect the uninfected from infection and the spread of the disease to see how he'd handle it if she revealed who really done it.
Then her plan backfired and whomever she was protected was still protected because she took the blame upon herself. She wasn't about to reveal then who the real killer was because then Rick would think/feel she was grasping at straws so that she wouldn't be banished.
[please note: I'm not entirely convinced that Carol didn't commit these killings (which I view as mercy killings) herself. This is just one of the many things that rambles around inside my brain.]
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Post by ragman on Dec 12, 2013 11:32:08 GMT -5
Rick was a King county sheriff deputy, not a homicide cop, or CSI tech, or blood spatter specialist. He can't dust for prints. He began at Carol's "confession" & stumbled backward in an "investigation" of a crime scene that he had no skill set to examine. Pre-ZA, the most he woulda done was respond to a call of bodies found. His job would be to secure the crime scene, take note of who was around (in the scene & onlookers) & then make a phone call. Homicide, CSI & a coroner arrive & take over. A medical examiner determines time & cause of death & might even be able to tell whether the killer was a child or a woman by the angle of the stab wound to the head: angled up, stabbed by a taller adult? At the time Homicide & CSI arrive, all Rick would have to do is be interviewed by the detective & maybe help with crowd control.
All that is to say that the notion that Rick lookin around at a "crime scene" to "prove" Carol did it is glarinly beyond his skill set. Also, even though interrogations are mostly handled by homicide, Rick should kno that ppl confess to crimes they didn't commit to protect somebody else quite often. He didn't even bother to grill her on motive. Also, a survivor of years of domestic violence can lie very convincinly when they need to, to protect somebody else. Rick is perhaps "all they have" for law enforcement, but findin "proof" Carol did it is outta his reach. He should also kno better that she could lie to protect somebody & he didn't even try to see if she was. He was lookin for remorse, not motive. A homicide cop would roll his eyes at Rick. Ugh. Yet too many fans see Rick "investigatin" & swallow his uneducated guesses as "fact" solely cuz he was a sheriff. I already said ugh, but... ugh.
Even if Carol really did do it, she'd have done it to protect the group. But then why would Carol made the irrational request that Lizzie & Mika should join her in exile? I believe Carol feels guilty & feels like "she did it" cuz she's the one who put a knife in Lizzie's hand & taught her "what we always have to do". Rick barely tried to discover if she had remorse; he didn't even try to see if she was coverin for somebody else. His ridic worry that Carol would be a threat to Carl or Judith is just crazy flakes.
& Rick isn't even on the council. He made the stupid decision to exile Carol all on his own, then with the Governor on his porch, he insisted "I don't make the decisions anymore, there's a council now." Um, ya can't have that both ways when it suits ya, Rick. & ya made a doozy of a decision to banish a major part of that council all on yer own, for crimes she very likely didn't even commit.
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Post by untapdtreasure on Dec 13, 2013 10:46:45 GMT -5
To be fair, King County was a small town. They probably wouldn't have a lot of detectives and the cops would probably work things the same way as a detective would. But you are right, I doubt he had much actual experience in what he was investigating. Especially with how quick he reached a guess. And it's sad, though.
Because there is more to this story. There has to be. It was not cut and dry, and we didn't get to see what lead Carol to do the things she did unless she's reflecting upon Sophia and how she feels like she did nothing when her daughter went missing.
She was being proactive instead of nonactive.
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Post by ragman on Dec 13, 2013 17:13:54 GMT -5
Well for me, if the show writers reveal that Carol really did do it, I'll still be on her side & call Rick wrong (& a hypocrite) for her banishment. If she did it, I agree with ya that she was pro-actively tryin to protect the group. I can't fault her for that. Karen & David were doomed either way the truth eventually falls. They fell sick long before the meds team returned & before Hershel made the tea. The illness had advanced too far in them, in that tickin time bomb sorta sitch Dr. S had described. Also, it's odd that Lizzie fell sick but her sister Mika didn't. They were both in cellblock D, but maybe Lizzie got worse exposure down in the Tombs with Karen & David. Dun-dun-dun!!  PS: Good point bout the small town; I'm from a huge city, so... But yeah, small towns prob have fewer murders, too. I assume... |
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Post by untapdtreasure on Dec 14, 2013 8:37:01 GMT -5
Oh yeah. And not everyone that was exposed to it contracted it. Daryl didn't. Carol either. Nor Rick. I've always had her back. Either way. If it's revealed that she did indeed do it, I feel it was more of a mercy kind of thing like she described to Rick on their car ride.
He is indeed hypocritical. She didn't do it in cold blood. I see more of a cold-blooded nature to him than I ever will toward her. And I think he feels threatened by her that she can do the hard jobs and not lose her sense of self. And that is what he struggles the most with.
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Post by ragman on Dec 14, 2013 23:31:44 GMT -5
I agree bout that. She does seem far better at doin the hard things & still retainin herself. Michonne can too & Daryl. Rick struggles with that & with questionin if his decisions are right. & yeah not everybody exposed got sick. Hershel didn't catch it, either; even after Dr. S coughed blood on him.
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