carol as a killer?

I have doubted that Carol did it from the very moment it was revealed that she had. It just doesn't feel right. It is very like Carol to protect others, but I just can't see her murdering two people like that on her own without talking to anyone. If it turns out that she really did do it, then I'll feel like the writers have gone against everything good about her character.

I believe she dragged & burned the bodies, to both contain the flu & destroy evidence. However, I believe that Lizzie killed them. She prob wanted to prove to Carol she could after she failed to mercy kill her father & Carol called her weak. A child wouldn't necessarily grasp the nuance of "bitten bout to turn" & "could maybe survive". Carol, havin taught her & admonishin her for bein weak, prob felt it was her fault that Lizzie did it. So she took the blame, assumin she could handle the others & havin no clue that Rick would take her on a run & banish her. She wanted to protect Lizzie & try to do a better job of explainin nuances to her.

When Rick banished her, she inexplicably asked to have the two girls join her. That request (which would put them in grave danger) made no sense & Carol's too level-headed & practical to panic & request somethin irrationally. She made the request, I believe, because she's afraid Lizzie will be found out & put in danger. So the belief that Lizzie could be in more danger at the prison as a discovered killer, made Carol willin to risk her outside the prison in exile.

Unless somebody in the group is a subversive, Lizzie is the only person likely to be feedin rats to walkers. Either her or Bob Stookey could've dissected the rat. Her to explore "life" or him to practice for future surgeries. He's an alcoholic Army medic & he may feel rusty.

I thnk Carol was blindsided by the exile, but she knew Rick couldn't be argued with. She obviously didn't choose to go, though. Rick gave her no choice. She has probly stayed close, wantin a chance to explain to Daryl. She'll be back.

Oh yes, true, I worded that wrong. Carol was admittin to mercy killin Karen & David & to prevent the flu from spreadin. But yeah, she was teachin the kids to knife the brain after death & prior to turnin. But that is what I meant by a child possibly not graspin the nuance of the situation. Lizzie has odd views on transformation & "personhood" & states of existence. She could have killed Karen & David before they died out of confusion or wantin to spare them sufferin or even cuz she found em asleep or passed out & mistook them for dead. But I have a very hard time swallowin the idea that Carol just killed them before the flu killed them to stop the spread of the illness. That threat was solved by the quarantine & if they had been the only two infected, it might have worked. Odds are, too many were already infected, so a quarantine or elimination of Karen & David simply didn't help.

I thnk Karen & David were sicker sooner due to fence duty & that may be why so many others were infected with or without Patrick infectin em. Tyreese said Karen "always did" fence duty, volunteered for it. & David was near her, shoutin "Yeah ya want some too?!" at the walkers, so he obvs liked that duty, too. Rick saw bloody-eyes infected walkers at the fence & even with an apron, Karen had blood spatter all over her.

I just can't make logical sense of the evidence if the "Carol really killed em" theory is ever proven to be true. The theory that fits (for me) is that she was confessin & burnin bodies to protect Lizzie & didn't see banishment as a possible outcome. Otherwise, her request to take the girls into exile with her makes no sense.

I agree bout the time jump excuse bein stupid. A huge character change like that should be developed, if they want it to be received with anythin else than a "oh, please" response from fans. Some unspoken "Oh, by the way, Carol developed into a sociopath over the winter, m'kay?" shouldn't be accepted by any devoted fan.

Carol did suggest to Andrea to kill the Governor in his sleep & in a deleted scene, she calmly tells Merle if he hurts Daryl, she will kill him in his sleep. However, I see those as efforts to protect the group from a violent enemy who seeks to kill them. That's very diff from killing sick ppl in the group to stop a killer illness. (Not that Merle was a killer out to murder anybody at that moment, but Carol just wanted to make things clear to him.)

It is notable that in both cases above she has a "kill a man in his sleep" plan. Odds are, she thought bout this with her husband Ed. Most likely, she didn't act on it out of a fear that if she went to prison, Sophia would be endangered. The ZA changes that consequence. But this idea of killin an abusive &/or sociopathic killer enemy in his sleep is still a vast jump away from what Carol confessed to, whether or not she did it.

As for Rick settin her up, I don't kno bout that, but he acts like a paranoid person, seein threats where they aren't. My mind boggled at his stated motive for the banishment - that he feared Carol might one day harm his kids. That was downright irrational. His kids aren't tryin to murder their whole group. They aren't a threat she would ever feel the group needed protection from.